LAWRENCE: INTERVIEW


by danielle holian

photo courtesy of lawrence

photo courtesy of lawrence

Lawrence is an eight-piece soul-pop band led by sibling duo Clyde & Gracie, and they're back with a 2021 anthem that will instantly lift your spirits. “Don't Lose Sight” is a track about perseverance and determination; in it, the band preaches the importance of staying strong and ignoring the haters. It will be on their upcoming album, out this summer, with a headline tour to follow. The album will also feature “Casualty,” “It's Not All About You,” “Weather,” and “Freckles,” which has gathered tens of millions of streams across all platforms. Unclear Magazine caught up with Lawrence to discuss all things music.

For our readers, please tell us a bit about your background in music.

Clyde: “Gracie and I are siblings, so we have been playing music together since we were little kids in New York City. I was more focused on songwriting and playing instruments as a young child, while Gracie was more focused on singing and performing. But over time, we began to learn from each other and be inspired by each other’s skill sets. We played at school events, small bars around NYC, not to mention every night in our living room, and it eventually morphed into a real professional endeavor. We picked up some amazing musicians along the way, who happened to be some of our best friends from childhood, high school, and college, and eventually started touring full time as Lawrence!”

Tell us about your brand-new single “Don't Lose Sight” and why was it important to create a high-energy release?

Gracie: “We are suckers for very energetic, full music — music that most people think of as their ‘road trip music’ is our favorite music always. We grew up listening to Motown records with strings and horns and background singers — music that just makes you feel really good the moment it starts, and very satisfied by how big it feels by the end. I think ‘Don’t Lose Sight’ follows that trajectory — or at least, we hope it does…”

Who or what are your musical influences as individuals and how do they come together for the band's sound and message?

G: “I think from a songwriting perspective Clyde and I probably have a lot of the same role models… Carole King, Randy Newman, The Beatles, etc… But from a vocal perspective, I kind of worship people who’s voices have personality that feels authentic. So growing up that was Etta James, Aretha Franklin, Amy Winehouse, Janis Joplin, Linda Ronstadt, Debbie Harry. More modern examples like Billie Eilish or Miley Cyrus or Nellie Mckay or Norah Jones or St. Vincent are incredible because you feel like you get to know them through the vocal choices they make. I like singers who care about telling the story.”

C: “And we are definitely influenced by groups from the 70s that used horns in a soulful pop context. So artists like Stevie Wonder, Chicago, Earth Wind & Fire, and others.”

You've opened for many great names like Lake Street Dive, Vulfpeck, Jon Bellion, Soulive, Jacob Collier, Blues Traveler, O.A.R, and Bernhoft. What did you gain from this experience?

G: “I probably gained a few pounds from eating every snack in hotel vending machines while on tour (Doritos taste incredible post-show and I have absolutely zero regrets). In terms of other types of gain, I feel like I’ve learned that it’s rare that you watch someone and think they’re enjoying themselves too much. Everyone we’ve opened for has been not just a good musician, but a supremely good performer. The artist sort of sets the bar for how much fun you’re allowed to have in the audience — if they’re having fun then you’re allowed to have that much fun too… if they’re not, then dancing your face off in the audience can feel intimidating or embarrassing. So I try every night to have a really good time for not just the audience but for myself, because I think by being a little selfish and enjoying the show I actually have the power to invite everyone else to the party too.”

You announced a headline tour alongside the release of your upcoming album. What can fans expect from this tour?

G: “It’ll be like attending a Bar Mitzvah every night if the theme was 70’s funk, and the band was actually good (#brag). Bring Nana and get ready to do the cha-cha slide.”

C: “We’re really proud of the fact that our live shows are completely live. There are no pre-recorded tracks, which presents challenges sometimes because our music these days includes plenty of really interesting digital sounds that are hard to replicate with our instruments. But it’s a fun challenge — how to take eight musicians playing on live instruments and make something that sounds not exactly the same as the recording, but just as fun and exciting in a different way.”

What do you want the listeners to take away from your music?

G: “I hope people feel permission to feel happy and sad at the same time, because that’s pretty much how I feel every hour of the day. Sometimes I feel like songs force you to choose how you need to feel at a given moment, and sometimes the answer is you feel like laughing and crying. But for us, ‘Don’t Lose Sight,’ the boppiest of bops, has verses and a bridge about wanting to give up and a chorus about being unwaveringly hopeful — all in the span of a three minute song. Another song, ‘Hotel TV,’ the title track of our album is about what looking at a hotel TV makes you feel and think about… and that isn’t one specific emotion, but it’s a mixture of melancholy, nostalgia and joy, and I hope that combination of feelings actually hits home (or hotel) even harder for people.”

How has the pandemic helped your creative juices?

C: “We love touring and playing shows, and it has been the centerpiece of how we have built our fanbase up to this point, so for the last several years we’ve spent a significant amount of time on the road. All of that being said, there has been something nice creatively about being forced to stay in one place for a while, not just in terms of having more time to make Lawrence music, but also to allow ourselves to explore some other projects or passions we would never have had as much time for in the past. Obviously we wish it was under better circumstances, but I think we’ve definitely learned some lessons that we’ll carry with us going forward.”

What drives you forward as an artist?

G: “Vandy Newman, our tour van.”

C: “That and the hummus that we eat in the green room every night.”

And finally, what’s one fun fact about yourself for our readers?

G: “I was born in a blow up bathtub in the middle of my childhood bedroom. Whenever I feel like an anxious, insecure person who isn’t ‘rock n roll’ enough, I remind myself that I emerged into this world in a very no-f’s-given way… and that helps for about two minutes before I’m neurotic again.”

C: “I’m colorblind!”

 

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CALLIE REIFF: INTERVIEW


by emmalyne errickson

photo by bellamy brewster

photo by bellamy brewster

Being only 21 years old, you would expect to only get to do so much in such a short lifespan. Maybe travel the world a bit, go to a few festivals, and so on so forth… But, for Callie Reiff, she became an accomplished producer, DJ, and all-around performer at that age. She got to perform with some well-known artists (Ed Sheeran and Skrillex) and perform at festivals as well. Her new single “What Ifs” (ft. Louella) came out on May 14th, releasing some indie-pop and electronica vibes when listening to it. 

How does it feel being 21 and already performed with well-known artists?

Callie: “It’s crazy to think back to all the artists I’ve been lucky enough to open for and do shows with. I’ve been playing shows since the age of 15, so I don’t really think of it as an age thing, more so I’ve just been enjoying those moments and letting them inspire me to be a better artist every day. Those early experiences of playing for zero people to thousands of people and playing for all sorts of different crowds has definitely shaped the music I make today, 100%!”

How did you get into this career of the music industry and how’d you find your genre of music? 

C: “I started off learning how to drum, just out of curiosity and wanting to try something new. I loved it but once I heard about DJing, I looked up some schools in NYC to try that out next. I took my first vinyl mixing lesson at Dubspot when I was 12 and instantly knew this was what I wanted to do. Finding my genre has really just come with going to shows, listening to hours of music, playing shows, and trial and error in my production. I like to call the music I’m making now ‘indie club.’”

What inspired you to write your single “What Ifs” (ft. Louella)? 

C: “The whole track came together after Isabella [Louella] sent over this vocal idea, which then turned into the main story of ‘What Ifs.’ I was super taken by the way the vocals continued to build energy throughout. I took her vocals and built the melody line that comes in for the drops and parts of the verses. The rest of the song came together pretty fast. The song is about the ups and downs you can go through with your decisions and wondering about what if you did this or that? I think we all have those questions, especially in the past year, so it felt like great timing to release this song.”

What’s it like creating music during a pandemic? Any inspiration from it? Hardships?

C: “At the beginning, it was very tough for me to feel inspired because I think we were all just scared and the world was on pause. However, it did allow me to go to music as my safety net, which drove me to start producing a lot. The one plus side of having no shows was that I had a lot of time to focus on my music production. Once I got into the groove, I was able to improve my sound more than I even thought was possible before all of this.”

Any word of advice that your fans could take from your music/songs? 

C: “I love to produce songs that have a mix of escapism and New York club energy, that make you stop everything and just really be in the moment. I also love to add hope and joyfulness in my melodies to counter some of the darker stories we tell in the lyrics. I think the main advice you can take from my music is that it’s good to just stop, enjoy the present, feel your feelings, and do what you love.”

Any new EPs/singles/albums that your fans can expect within the year of 2021 without spoiling too much? If not 2021, 2022? 

C: “Yes! I will be releasing a few more singles this year and then putting everything together later this year into an EP!”

 

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MAY-A: INTERVIEW


by abby crabill

photo by maybelle thieu

photo by maybelle thieu

Maya Cumming, also known as MAY-A, is a 19-year-old Sydney based singer-songwriter. Although she just started releasing music about a year ago, MAY-A has quickly built a large fanbase. She has already amassed over 250K YouTube subscribers, as well as having a sold out debut headline tour under her belt.

MAY-A recently released a new single on May 20th titled “Swing of Things.” This single follows others, titled “Time I Love To Waste” and “Apricots.” Together, these songs portray MAY-A's experience through the different stages of the same relationship.

What inspired you to get into music from such a young age?

MAY-A: “My dad was always playing guitar when I was a kid and I had a small collection of Taylor Swift CDs which I think had a big impact on my songwriting.”

What inspires you to create?

M: “All my ex-girlfriends.”

How would you answer someone who asks you to describe yourself/your style?

M: “Self-critical, distracted and easily excitable.”

Which of your singles did you find it the most difficult to write? Why do you think that is?

M: “All of the songs have been pretty free flowing and from the heart, so not that difficult to work on. I’d say probably the chorus of ‘Green’ since the first demo was me freestyling random melodies in the chorus and filling in the blanks later.”

Can you explain a little bit of the connection between your single “Swing of Things” and your other singles?

M: “The connection between the last three singles is that they take you through the different stages of the same relationship, they’re all snapshots of time I spent with this girl.”

Can you describe your new single “Swing of Things” a little bit?

M: “Swing of Things is about breaking out of bad habits and the struggles that come with that.”

How did you decide to have an all-female band with you?

M: “Because only 22.4% of artists are female, 12.3% are songwriters, and 2% are producers. We need to support our women in music.”

You recently sold out your debut headline shows! Can you tell me a little bit about how you are feeling about that?

M: “Super stoked, it was heaps of fun to perform with my band, I’m excited to play as many more as I can.”

What can we expect to see from you in the future? Any big plans?

M: “There’s a lot of cool stuff in the works, finishing up the EP and all the creative stuff,  hopefully planning some overseas shows as well.”

 

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WILDERADO: INTERVIEW


by jacqueline mcelhone

photo by grant spanier

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Tulsa trio Wilderado recently sat down with us to talk about how they were formed, their single “Head Right,” and more below!

Tell us about how you got together. How was Wilderado formed? (And what’s kept you together?)

Max: “Wilderado formed from a collection of songs and several people that enjoyed being around each other. To be honest, I’m not really sure how it happened. There were the first songs and a group of friends. I know we were selective about who made up the band at the beginning, and still are, but I don’t really remember a process. I do know that the three of us put a lot of energy into hearing each other out and keeping each other’s best intentions in mind. That’s played a big part in us staying together. We also just like it. We like the songs and each other and are dedicated to doing what we can to keep it that way.”

What helps you get your “head right?”

Max: “Man, I have no idea. Trying to figure that out. I guess that’s what the songs about.”

Where does your lyrical inspiration come from? Has your writing process changed without being able to be on the road?

Max: “I’m most inspired by the melody I’m hearing at the time. I find I can write best when I’m trying to focus on the mood the melody puts me in rather than something that needs to be said. I have a hard time writing on the road. It’s always so hectic and there are limited moments where I can find an empty room to sing and search for melodies and words.”

Has the pandemic shifted your perspective at all, on music or life in general? 

Max: “The pandemic made me realize how wild touring is. It had been so long since I had stayed in one place for an extended amount of time. I keep trying to remember touring, but all I can really do is be shocked at the fact that we were in a different motel every night. Sharing beds. Eating every meal out. Moving a small apartment in and out of our trailer over and over. It’s pretty crazy! You just do it, though. I know when it comes back around I will get back into the cowboy aspect of it all, but for now I look at touring like an animal in a zoo. This whole thing has also put some wild perspective on how fast everything can change, how defenseless we are and how much I long for connection. Really, more than anything, it’s made me realize how much I love my family. My sisters and brother, my mom and dad, my wife and kids. I guess I’m more afraid than ever to leave them again. We can control so little, but there is some peace in that.”

What do you want people to feel when they listen to Wilderado? How would you describe the vibe?

Max: “I want people to feel like they’re allowed to feel however they want, but, selfishly, I want them to feel like I feel and to not feel alone. Mt. Joy has that great line, ‘We’re all alone together, now.’ I love that. It doesn’t have to be that profound of a thing, though. It’s always nice to know that we’ve provided a mood or vibe. I think we have an easy vibe. Maybe that comes from how simple a lot of the music is or how much we like to feel easy and relaxed. I think we like being able to just do our thing. It’s cool to imagine people listening to the band and wanting to just vibe out or be themselves.”

Who are your biggest musical inspirations?

Max: “At the moment I’ve been listening to a lot of Don Williams and Adam Melchor.”

How do you balance fatherhood with pursuing your passion for music, which inevitably requires tours and long months away from home? 

Max: “Gosh, lots of times I don’t. I try not to separate them. I want my kids to know what I’m working on, know where I am and what I’m thinking. The other day I picked my five year old up from school and she goes, ‘How are your songs?’ I thought that was so cool. Our passions are a part of us, aren’t they? Everything I do impacts what kind of dad, friend, husband, brother, etc I am. I need my passions and excitement, the hard work of it all, to feel good and confident. I asked someone this same question once and he said he loves the fact that his kids see him being serious enough about his passions to let them take him all over the place. I thought that was cool. I guess the balance would be making sure they know I am as passionate about them and what they’re passionate about as I am my own interests.”

 

When it comes to music videos and your visuals, they all have a storytelling aspect to them. Who comes up with that, is it a collaborative process or you take an idea and roll with it?

Max: “It’s all been very collaborative. Music videos are hard. Niles Jeran did the Head Right video. He’s actually flying to meet us in Tulsa right now. We haven’t figured videos out yet. It’s one of those things we need to just keep trying. We all love film and are impacted pretty heavily by it, so it’s not something we take lightly. But you could probably argue that’s kept us from trying as much as we should.”

How do you balance the “necessary evils” of being a musician in today’s world — like self-marketing? What do you feel the role of social media is in the music industry? 

Max: “Man I hate it. I’m so bad with social media. It makes me so self-conscious. I don’t know how to engage with it without also getting wrapped up in comparison and/or wanting people to like me. I honestly think it’s such a shame we’re all so required to be actively engaged with social media. However, I do think it’s cool that people have found a way to be comfortable and productive and make careers out of it. But for me it causes me too much anxiety. Definitely a struggle of mine at the moment. I wish I could just take calls all day and interact with our fans that way. It ebbs and flows. It’s a blessing and a curse.

What can your fans look forward to this year? What makes you excited about your debut LP that’s in the works?

Max: “I think there is as much to look forward to this year as there’s ever been. Wilderado is in such a positive place. I know some things will be hard, but I really can’t wait to just see people again and tell them thank you for getting us through this year, for listening to the music and sending us messages. We’re just excited to release our debut LP. We’ve spent five years chasing a record. We’ve worked hard and fought for this record. Feels good to have finished something and now we are close to the point where we get to enjoy it with all the people that helped us do that.”

 

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ABIGAIL OSBORN: INTERVIEW


by mariah estran

photo by noah tidmore

photo by noah tidmore

Heartbreak is never fun. This whirlwind of emotions takes time to overcome, a familiar feeling to some, and one that could be hard to forget. But for singer-songwriter Abigail Osborn, she’s giving heartache a much-needed makeover.

“If you're going to break my heart, let’s make it a good time,” she declares in her new single, “Break My Heart.” The three-minute empowerment anthem is taking back control from the ones who did the damage. Through its bubbly-pop nature, the track would enchant anyone to stand-up, and dance through the feelings.

That visual that Osborn paints through her lyrics came to life shortly after the single release. She rented out a pink house in Nashville, gathered ten friends, and filmed a music video. “I wanted to create something that visually looks like how the song feels to me,” she says. “I wanted to get a bunch of my friends together and make a visual of a bunch of girls flipping the script. From heartbreak being sad, victimizing feeling to being like ‘no, we are actually in control of this, and we can make it a good time if we want it to be.'"

“Break My Heart” follows up her raw, nostalgia-filled debut single “Drive All Night.” In just two tracks, she’s shown her versatility. Initially a folk singer, she’s now diving into the universe of pop music. Osborn is finding the balance and is ready to take listeners on a journey through her upcoming discography.

We spoke with the singer on her beginnings, the single “Break My Heart,” how she has worked to develop her sound, her songwriting techniques, and what she hopes listeners take away.

You’ve been writing and playing music for some time. But when did you realize you wanted to pursue music full-time?

Abigail: “I didn’t start writing until I was seventeen. When I was nineteen, I transferred to Belmont University to finish my degree there. I quickly realized (while I was trying to finish my degree there) that music was the only thing I wanted to do. So, I ended up dropping out of Belmont and then started music full-time in the Fall of 2019.”

 

“Break My Heart” is such a bubbly comeback for boys who have a habit of messing with girls’ hearts. What was the creative process like while creating this track?

A: “It was unlike any other one. I had an experience with a boy, and it was the straw that broke the camel’s back. I had the melody come to me while I was almost asleep. So, I brought my voice memo out. I woke up the next day, called one of my co-writers, named Joshoua Nichols. We were in the studio finishing the song together in a matter of a couple of hours. After that, we sent it off to be mixed and mastered, then filmed a music video a week after.”

You’ve recently released the music video to go with the track! What can you tell us about the visual?

A: “I wanted to create something that visually looks like how the song feels to me. It’s the most fun song or the most fun-sounding song I’ve ever written. It just feels empowering. I’m singing about how ‘if someone’s gonna break my heart, they better do it the right way.’ I wanted to get a bunch of my friends together and make a visual of a bunch of girls flipping the script. From heartbreak being sad, victimizing feeling to being like ‘no, we are actually in control of this, and we can make it a good time if we want it to be.’ I rented out this big pink house in Nashville and gathered ten of my girlfriends together. We all dressed in pink and had a little party.”

It’s clear you have this way of developing lyrics that tell a story. Your previous single “Drive All Night” is a perfect example of that. How do you keep inspired when songwriting?

A: “I am inspired by visual things. I love the idea of experiencing a story and getting to bring other people right into that story with me. I think the best way to do that is by giving a lot of detail. I always have a notes app running on my phone of random details. For ‘Drive All Night,’ specifically, there was this street near the house I was staying at for the summer in Colorado. When lacking inspiration, I’ll go to my notes app and see something like ‘7th street’ and be like, ‘okay, what was the story there?’”

You have this sound that’s pop with an indie-twist that brings in an almost raw type of softness. How have you worked to develop your sound?

A: “That has been a journey for sure! When I was seventeen to about twenty, I was making a lot of folk music. So, I have made a big transition into the pop world, but I’ve stayed true to my storyteller self, I believe. This new sound feels very nostalgic to me, nostalgic-pop. I think it's because of my folk influence. It’s been a journey to find a happy medium between the two. But ‘Drive All Night’ was the first song I made where I was like, ‘okay, this feels like me.' I can have natural elements in the song while they still feel big and powerful.”

 

Compared to the folk beginnings you had; do you feel like you are more comfortable in this new pop genre?

A: “I think for a while, I was scared to get out from behind my acoustic guitar. Ever since I have, I think it’s opened up this whole new world for me. It feels empowering and exciting to know that my songs can be bigger than just me and my guitar. I still write a lot of things; I start them out on guitar and piano. As an artist, I feel like I’ve developed confidence quite a bit. I can say things I couldn’t say before. That’s been exciting. I’m still pretty fresh into the musical project and genre I am living in now. But it feels so much more like me than anything else has.”

These two songs have been your introduction while showing listeners your versatility. What do you think these tracks say about you as an artist so far?

A: “I hope that it shows, I’m as real as possible, specifically with my heart. But as an artist, I want to pinpoint specific emotions and communicate them. When I listen to music, my favorite thing is hearing artists that make you feel like you are with them. I feel like I am not the only person that has felt that way.

That is my goal as an artist and a songwriter. By having so much detail in my story, I want people to feel like they are not alone in a feeling. ‘Drive All Night’ is a feel-good song, but I want people to feel brought back to a nostalgic feeling of being in high school and being with their favorite person, and not caring about anything else, being in the moment. I’m hoping to do that more with all these songs coming out after ‘Break My Heart.’”

Lastly, what do you want our readers to know about you as an artist?

A: “I’m just excited to put out stuff that I hope people connect to. Everything I am talking about in my songs is very verbatim, a stream of consciousness. I hope that people can listen to them and feel the honesty of me. Be able to relate and feel like they are right there with me in these stories. I’m excited to put out more. Hopefully, see everybody on the road someday!”

 

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