SHUBA: INTERVIEW


by mariah estran

photo by dametreus ward

Turn on Shuba’s “Icon,” and your ears are blessed with a playful number. One that opens with a warm “Hi,” as she tells the world who she is and what you might know her from. specifically referencing her covers of Shakira or Britney Spears on TikTok. Yet, also letting us know she’s here to follow her dreams and push through the glass ceiling one single at a time. 

Joining Swedish pop with an effortless hint of Bollywood flair, she's building her sound. Additionally, a community she hopes will represent the once unrepresented. She was the little girl who couldn't relate to the stars on the screen. Now, she’s working towards being the difference. Whether you're streaming her songs or watching her TikTok, she’s set to leave her mark.

Shuba took time to tell us more about “Icon,” being on TikTok, connecting with listeners, her musical inspirations, and what she’s working on next.



Your single “Icon” shares a little background on who you are. You have a line that says you’ve been singing since you were three. Tell us more about what inspired you to get into music.

Shuba: “I think I have always been exposed to music. My parents played a lot of Bollywood, country, Disney music, Mariah Carey — all the greats. I think we’ve kind of always been into music.”



What I love about this track, outside of its catchy nature, is that we get to learn who you are in a matter of three and a half minutes. You mention your immigrant mother and fusing those Bollywood sounds with Hollywood pop. How have you developed your sound and continue to integrate this diverse musical background into your work?

Shuba: “I think for me, just keeping an open mind to trying snippets of new things but staying true. At the end of the day, it’s not the shtick of like, western music with a Bollywood twist. It’s more so that the Bollywood music happens to come out in a lot of my songs. Those melodies are also important to me, as are western and Swedish pop melodies.

I’m always trying to experiment with new sounds, creative themes, and topics.”



Who would you say are some of your musical inspirations?

Shuba: “I call it ‘The Holy Trinity.’ We have Freddie Mercury — our lord and savior. We have Rihanna, and then we have Eminem. That’s it for me — that’s all I need musically. It teaches me something new about being unapologetic with my music, being a little bit daring with my music, and telling my story.”



What inspired you to find a way to tell your story through your track “Icon?”

Shuba: “I think, at the time, I hadn’t written a song like that. I was ready to try something new — it was just a clean beat. There was a lot of room; it didn’t seem like the kind of song you straight-up rap to. It was this bouncy, little playground-type sounding beat. It reminded me a lot of ‘My Name Is’ by Eminem.

At the time, I was going through this transition. I had amassed this good following on TikTok and social media. I established various identities like the Indian Ariana, the Eminem girl, the Shakira girl — these different series that started. I think I wanted to claim all those things and address those things, but also be like, ‘Hey, this is actually who I am.’”



You’ve gotten quite the love on TikTok. How do you feel that platform has helped you as an artist?

Shuba: “I think TikTok needed to happen in my life. I don’t want to say everything happens for a reason, but everything that’s meant to happen happens. I think, until TikTok, I didn’t try to creatively put pieces out where I was trying different things. TikTok is such an accepting platform. I learned that people liked my rap, that I could write pretty clever lines. I found that trying these things out on this platform — that so many people responded to these things.

I think TikTok is an app for our inner children. The reason people go viral now is not because of flashy things. It’s because of their relatability of things they have at their core, who they are as children. I think TikTok released my inner child that had been covered up. Now, I have her back.”



You are giving the presentation that you did not get to see when you were younger. As an artist, what do you hope to keep doing with your music and platform?

Shuba: “When mentioning Eminem, Rihanna, Freddie… My goal in life is to make people feel the same way I feel when I listen to those artists. Empowered, resilient, and sexy. I think anytime I listened to their music, they were all coming up in different parts of their lives. Through their music, I just feel different things (even though we are very different people). I want people to feel that way about my music.

What I love about Freddie, Rihanna, and Eminem, is all three of them are like this paradox. They’re always surprising us. I like them because of who they are and how they own their culture, but they don’t force it. I don’t want to be like, ‘Listen to me because I’m Indian.’ Listen to me because you like my music. Any person who’s invested should feel represented by me. It’s not just immigrants — it’s for anyone who feels like an outsider.”



What can we expect from you next? More music, a larger piece of work?

Shuba: “I think number one is more live shows. I’ll be touring in the fall. I just wanna see people, keep making songs, and keep making content. It’s doing the same thing, just at bigger levels.”



Do you have any singles you’re currently working on?

Shuba: “I [just released] this new one called ‘True Colors.’ So, look out for that one. I’m excited for people to scream that in their cars.”

 

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LAST DINOSAURS: INTERVIEW


by sierra romano

photo courtesy of last dinosaurs

Last Dinosaurs have been releasing some songs in anticipation of their upcoming album, From Mexico With Love out on November 4th! We caught up with them to talk about their writing process and even got a taste of some of their favorite tour memories. Be sure to catch them at an upcoming show and check out the new songs! 




Hey guys! Congrats on the release of your recent songs, which release has been your favorite so far?

Last Dinosaurs: “Thanks! ‘Auto-Sabotage’ just got released, it’s probably one of my favorites on the album and it’s got a banger video that’s coming out soon. We’ve been sitting on it for ages so it’s exciting to finally get it out there!”




When writing, what usually comes first, the lyrics or the instrumentals?

Last Dinosaurs: “Lyrics almost always come last for us. As for the instrumentals, sometimes it’s a lead guitar riff, sometimes an interesting chord progression or a driving drum beat that leads the direction of the song.”




Your next album, From Mexico With Love, is coming out on November 4th. How does this album compare to your previous releases?

Last Dinosaurs: “This album was written in quarantine by Lach during his time in Guanajuato, Mexico, so having his songwriting as the basis for all the songs gives the album its own flavor while still having the Dinos DNA. Lach wrote half of the songs on our previous album so it’s a nice natural lead in on FMWL.”




What are you most excited about with the release of your next album?

Last Dinosaurs: “Getting to tour again with these new songs released is really exciting, we’ve just finished our first tour of USA and Mexico since the pandemic and it’s super refreshing to get back on the road and actually play for fans. Everyone seems keen to get back out and watch live music.”




You guys are from Australia but actually wrote most of the album in Mexico, how does your location impact your creativity?

Last Dinosaurs: ”Lach was basically stuck in Mexico as the epidemic turned into a pandemic and borders shut down all over the world. I think a lot of the songs on the new album come from that mindset of being away from home. For me the album has so many themes that fit the self-reflection that came from being locked down. Perhaps it’s not the location itself that influences the music but what’s happening while you’re there.”



What are some other artists you draw inspiration from?

Last Dinosaurs: “Our DNA began with bands like The Strokes, Phoenix, Foals and that ilk, but you can definitely hear influence from a whole range of styles of music we listen to. An album that has been on repeat around this record was Robson Jorge & Lincoln Olivetti LP from 1982.”



What is one message you hope the fans will take away from this new album, or your music in general?

Last Dinosaurs: “I would say we deal in feelings more than messages. The best thing about music is when a song hits something inside you and perfectly resonates with a feeling or an idea. I hope people find that in different songs on the new album.”



Lastly, you have been touring a lot recently and have a bunch of upcoming shows to look forward to. Can you share your favorite memory from the road so far?

Last Dinosaurs: “We capped off our tour with Lollapalooza in Chicago, our first US festival. It was pretty special to watch people fill up the grass in front of us. Very hard to narrow down to one favorite memory, but I definitely have a soft spot for experiencing middle-of-nowhere, middle-of-the-night Waffle House meals on the US tour. The biscuits and gravy really hit the spot.”

 

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WINONA OAK: INTERVIEW


by sierra romano

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Winona Oak tells Unclear all about her new album, Island of the Sun, and breaks down the process of making such a beautiful record. Oak says she wants people listening to her music to “feel good about themselves and feel less lonely” which is definitely what you will experience when hearing her tracks. Check out our most recent interview with her, and be sure to catch her at an upcoming headlining show!



Congrats on the album! What was the inspiration behind the title track “Island of the Sun” and how did you know it would open the album? 

Winona: “Well first of all, thank you so much! It feels pretty unreal that it is out in the world finally and it feels so nice to be able to perform all these songs live and see how people in real life connect with them. It just makes me so happy! Island of the Sun is named after the island where I grew up in Sweden, a small island in the middle of the Nordic forests. I was feeling pretty homesick when I was living in LA and I was going through some really tough things. The island works kind of as a metaphor for a place when everything is just beautiful and easy in a way — the place in your childhood where everything is as big and complicated as you make it.  I wanted that song to open up the album to take people back to where it all started, the place where I grew up. I wanted to invite them into my world and I think it's the perfect song to open up to them the rest of the album. I am really happy with the decision.”

 

What was the writing process like for this album as a whole?

Winona: “So this album is full of some of my favorite songs that I've written over these past four years. There's a lot of songs that didn't make it and it's always like that, like a puzzle you kind of have to piece together and see what sounds good as a whole. It’s kind of hard to be honest, it's a process and it took me a long time to make the decisions. I'm really proud of the album and happy with how it all turned out and I love every single song so that makes me happy.”

 

What was the most challenging part of completing the album? 

Winona: “Well definitely choosing the songs and choosing what order I was going to put them. It is hard, you need to listen to it over and over again and you need to switch out songs. It can be really hard because you get so attached to them. You can only have so many sad songs and so many up tempo songs. In an ideal world, at least for me, I wanted the album to contain a whole spectrum of emotions and have it be like a rollercoaster. I didn't want it to be an album where 13 songs sound the exact same, so that's definitely the hardest part.”

 

If you had to pick, what is your favorite song off the record? 

Winona: “I don't know, I can't choose really. They're all so different and I just love them all actually. It's really hard, I can't choose.”

 

Who are some artists that inspire you? 

Winona: “Well I have always been inspired by Leonard Cohen since I was very young. I just love his way of songwriting and the way that he uses his voice as the core. I have just always loved him. There are so many great artists out there! I love Christine and the Queens, Charli XCX, Tove Lo, RyaX. Honestly, there are so many great artists. Bjork, the list can go on and on, which is so lovely. There are so many beautiful creators out there.”

 

What is something that making this album has taught you about yourself? 

Winona: “Honestly, I feel like writing every single song on this album is like having a therapy session. I feel like when you go into the studio and write a song, because you talk about life and your experience and emotions for so long and that's kind of what creates the song. Every single song has definitely taught me something which is beautiful.”

 

As new fans are discovering your songs, what is something you want them to take away from your music? 

Winona: “Well I just want them to feel like they are a part of my world and they are beautiful and that they deserve the best, that they just feel good about themselves and feel less lonely. They can have my songs as soundtracks in their happy moments and in their sad moments and just feel like a deep connection from them. They know that I write these songs about my experiences and what I’ve learned and all the tough lessons. I just want new fans to feel like they can take something from that and that they feel good about it and that they are a part of something good.”

 

Are there any upcoming projects or shows the fans can look forward to? 

Winona: “Yeah definitely! I am so excited, I can't wait to do my own headline shows in the future and I am going to continue writing and I can't wait to write my next album and to collaborate with more people and artists. There's so much to create and that's so exciting because I have no idea what it will be but I know it will be amazing, so stay tuned!

 

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MILK & BONE INTERVIEW


by alex grainger

photo courtesy of milk & bone

Milk & Bone released their latest single “Movies” July 28th. The duo’s “sunniest” single yet is notably one which reveals a new sound as “Movies” is their first single with guitar as the main instrument. “Movies,” the third single released ahead of their upcoming album, comes after their three year break, and shares the powerful message to never settle. The release of “Movies” is accompanied by the announcement of the duo’s upcoming album, Chrysalism dropping October 28th. Read more about “Movies” and Milk & Bone below!



Can you tell us what “Movies” is about?

Milk & Bone: “Dating is hard. But it’s harder when you don’t share the same language or love languages. ‘Movies’ is about the moment in a situationship when you have to decide if you want to keep working on issues that arise or if you should just give up. And I think a part of growth is also knowing your worth and not settling.”

 

What was the creative process behind “Movies?” How did you decide to make this single your first ever with guitar as the main instrument?

Milk & Bone: “We’ve always been a synth based band mostly because we’re both synth players and our collaborators were also synth based people. Our new album’s producer Micah is the first person we’ve ever worked with whose main instrument is actually the guitar. We wanted him to be a big part of the record, and his ideas often took form with the guitar. I think producing most of the record in LA also made it a bit warmer. Guitar’s a warm instrument, right?”

 

What is the message you are sending to listeners of “Movies?”

Milk & Bone: “Don’t settle. Listen to your gut. We usually ignore the first red flags but they tend to be the most important.”

 

How has your sound developed from your first album Little Mourning (2015) to now with your latest release “Movies?”

Milk & Bone: “After a three year break from performing live and creating new music for the band, we felt so excited to get back to work. We took a lot of time to talk about where we were in our personal lives, what we wanted to share with our fans and how we wanted to approach this next Milk & Bone era. One of the most important things moving forward was that we wanted to have fun performing our new songs on a stage. We still have this very intimate way of writing songs, but they tend to be more pop and upbeat, the vocals are more produced. ‘Movies’ is a great example of that.”

 

You mention how “Movies” is about the dilemma between becoming the perfect partner or staying true to oneself. Did writing this song prompt you to look deeper into the relationships in your lives? What, if at all, did this teach you about your relationships, how you viewed them, and where they were going?

Milk & Bone: “I mean one of us wrote this song while she was questioning if she should stay in a relationship or not. She’s not in the relationship anymore. :) I think this song was an attempt at standing my ground and convincing myself that I needed to get out of this relationship. Let’s just say after you write a song like this and read it back, it’s hard to not see the obvious.”

 

Do both of you have a favorite lyric in “Movies?” One that is especially powerful or meaningful?

Lau: “I think mine would be ‘All the love notes that you wrote, painted a picture that wasn’t for me.’ Mostly because it speaks about something that truly hurt me, yet made me much more ready for better relationships. It’s just super personal and a good reminder that I’m better off. ;)”

Cami: ”’Pick me up where you dropped me off, my safe words they don’t work out here.’ This is kind of my inner child screaming inside, yelling at me that this is not where I’m supposed to be, that I’m not being listened to or heard. And that’s just a very precise depiction of how I was feeling.”

 

Is this single a reflection of the process or did you create it while either or both of you were facing this dilemma in the moment?

Milk & Bone: “Oh, 100% facing the dilemma. Like most of our songs, lol.”

 

How did you decide to release “Movies” as a single ahead of your upcoming album Chrysalism?

Milk & Bone: “Honestly we were obsessed with it as soon as we had finished it. It’s the sunniest of our singles so far, and I think we really needed the breath of fresh air in this summertime period. The album goes in all directions, but this one is definitely special.”

 

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You’re dropping your new album Chrysalism on October 28th. What can you tell us about the album?

Milk & Bone: “We don’t wanna say too much! This record is a new way of working for us. More spur of the moment songs, more raw emotion. We’ve also definitely grown a bunch in the past few years (as women but also as humans ((ie: a pandemic))). This is our best record yet.”

 

Chrysalism comes post your pandemic induced break. How did the pandemic impact this album? Have you learned any valuable lessons as artists during this time?

Milk & Bone: “This forced time off was in a way a true gift for us. It reminded us that we need to take a break from time to time. But also that to stay relevant, we need time off to allow ourselves to feel, to reflect on where we’re at in our hearts and life. It felt so good to realize how many things we had to share and all we had realized only because we had the time to truly be alone with our thoughts and feelings. We will certainly make sure we create a better work balance, so we hopefully continue growing as artists and share meaningful things.”

 

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GEARING UP FOR PRIMAVERA SOUND LA


by shannon williams

Originally being held in Barcelona and Porto, Primavera Sound is officially making its way to Los Angeles this year! The festival is going to be held at LA State Historic Park and will be from September 16th to 18th. We're excited to see headliners Lorde, Arctic Monkeys, and Nine Inch Nails. Other artists that are performing include Clairo, Mistki, PinkPantheress, James Blake, GIVĒON, King Krule, Khruangbin, and so many more! With Primavera Sound being held in the US for the first time ever, this is something you do not want to miss out on! Check out our Primavera Sound playlist to get you ready for the 3-day festival.